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of greece. if the long run greece would have low unemployment, but they do not, but yes, we're going to go a percent, if it happens the worse case scenario, but in five years we won't be not able to borrow money. >> brenda: julian, you can go ahead and respond. >> first of all, the ernst & young study has been debunked over and over. and number two, the bush tax cuts, if you let the bush tax cuts. the crs study was a republican study and found the same thing as the cbo. if you let bush tax cuts expire on everybody, yes, you would have negative economic impact. the two staetudies done recentl shows the top two rates, top 2%, virtually no impact. to jonas' point if you raise taxes a the lot and cut spending a lot and so austerity plan, that would have an impact. democrats were for pouring more money into the compli with stimulus and republicans wanted austerity and jonas' point is an argument against what conservatives were pushing for. >> brenda: all right. toby. >> what's the question? >> driving a smart car. >> and we did a survey of 1500 small business peoples more in the 2%, revenue or
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ban them and it -- >> greg: the funny thing is we talk about greece, but before there was greece, there was detroit. detroit is greece. if it was only the acropolis. dead city. people left because they couldn't make a living, the unions suffocate pod tenial. >> bob: true about toledo and cleveland and cincinnati? the northern cities that have had bleed of workers? >> eric: i will make a wage with you. now that snyder signs it off and right to work, i bet an auto company goes -- brand new, never done business before in detroit. >> kimberly: you will lose this bet, bob. >> eric: coming up, 2004 south korean singer rapped about killing americans in 2019 and is invited to perform for president obama. ♪ ♪ >> eric: maybe not. we will gangmam bang it out next. and make sure you go to the facebook page. we are updating and posting facebook.com/thefivefnc. click like. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ [ malennouncer ] it's tt time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you realldon't want to pay more than you have to. only
the arts in schools. more than a christmas play is a play. one of my favorite times in school. greece, we did greece in the -- grease, we did greece -- grease in my class. and i was kinicki. >> can you do that? >> i need the wig. >> i played rizzo and i didn't need the wig of the. >> you're welcome. >> patrick, i didn't really understand or agree with your argument, you said something about because joe success was a historical figure. but that has nothing to do with what christmas celebrates. it is celebrating the birth of the son of god. >> but the point is, there is a historically relevant component to that for nonchristians. people who do not claim to be christians or are not christians their eyes will not burn out of their head by watching something that does that. >> jesus in a manger. >> but the entire point of christmas is that jesus is the son of god. it is not that he was a man. >> the point of christmas, jesus the son of god was born that day. >> right, exactly. the son of god. i'm confused. >> you are trying to have a fight about jesus christ. >> i am not having a fight about i
greece or italy? twenty years? i don't know. this trendline is bad. happening under bush and obama. it does not work. john: good intentions and that go bad. clean energy's. >> solyndra. the tip of the a's spurred. dozens of companies go bad. the story behind the story. campaign contributors contributors, interest free loans from the government, distorting capital, it means resources are being used less productively and workers get lower wages and it adds up to the bad situation. john: president bush says it to oklahoma you take care of things it is good for the economy. >> collor you create a housing bubble. those people were the ones that had to walk out onto the plank then we all fall into the shark infested waters 87 tax credits. >> sounds great. but from the tax code in 1913 only 14 pages we have warped into the 702000 page monster. more than 1,000 different forms to download. nobody understands. h&r block loves it but it is a news around the neck of the american economy. every page has something in it that sounds good but look what it adds up to 27 spending. the welfare state.
're the only country that does it, let's be like france, greece, and spain and not have one and get to the cliff-- >> a quick reminder, by the way, adam of the 16 trillion dollars of debt that currently is on the table for the united states. 6 billion of that debt, neil, has been put on the books under president obama's watch. >> 6 trillion. >> 6 trillion. we're talking about adding on to that. where is he he coming up with the numbers? which economist is he citing and where are the polls-- >> warren buffett said earlier in the week it's not about economics it's about making people feel good. -- let me stop a second. did you say where he does he pull these numbers out of. >> seriously, seriously. >> neil: i wanted to make sure i heard you correctly. talk about a pain in the gas. the price is record high this time of year and we're getting new proposals to hike gasoline prices to pay down the debt. where will it go. the gang from forbes is on that. that's at the top of the hour. forget having the in-laws over for dinner, more families are shacking up together. young, old and everyone
or any american congress borrow anymore money until with fix this country from becoming greece. that requires significant entitlement reform to save social from bankruptcy and medicare from bankruptcy. social security is going bankrupt in about 20, 25 years. medicare is going bankrupt in 15 or 20 years. the baby boomers are coming in at 10,000 a day. and we just can't scene this. martha: president last week said we'll not play that game. last time around they wouldn't let the debt ceiling go up, i tell you right now, something to this effect we will play that game. >> we will play that game, mr. president. that is not a game. the game you're play something small ball. you're talking about raising rates on top 2% that would run the government for 11 days. you got reelected. how about doing something big that is not liberal? how about doing something big that is bipartisan. every big idea he has is a liberal idea that drowns us in debt. how been maing up, mr. president and use your mandate to bring this country together to stop us from becoming greece? doing what boehner, tip o'n
's reacting, at some point we will become greece, there aren't any more hypothesis. >> charles, why are they still relatively calm? i think they're relatively calm because of what charlie said. the markets believe we will get a deal. the leadership is trying to get a deal, but it's not easy and by the way by the way-- >> adam, adam. >> charlie, not the end of the world. >> markets like short-term fixes, too. and just because-- >> markets like money printing and. >> neil: by the way, i know i might offend some of you market enthusiasts here, but markets can be wrong and markets might be satisfied. >> they're always wrong. >> neil: a short-term gift and remember the first tarp vote rejected and the market fell about 800 points and run back together and get a deal going and the market ends up being 4,000 points lower a few months later. so, ben, my worry is basing everything you do on a market selloff. >> well, the markets are always wrong, neil because they change the next day or the next hour. and for long periods of time, they have a modest degree of predicted value. >> neil: would
fix the over spending that is going to turn us into greece and spain. you talk about it all the time, it is so important we do that. even if we don't get rean elected it is so important -- reelected it is so important we do that we need all the leverage we got. >> sean: we are on our way to 20 trillion in debt. this is beyond fiscal cliff, this is a fiscal dive into i don't want to think where it can take us. >> some would say, if the dollar were not the international currency, we would have already been greece. >> sean: i brought up some ideas at the tkpweuplg of the program. i said okay, why don't we go for 200 billion in discretionary cuts to start, yes to entitlement reform, you agree? yes to serious tax reform? >> do i ever. when the president says fair share the perfect answer, flat tax. he has not made one pro bowsal that will have warren buffett paying the same as his secretary. it is called capital gains 15%. income tax is 15%. you make more, you pay more. you make less, you pay less. everybody pays their fair share. >> sean: same with value added tax after eliminating the f
and that is a game leapfrog. we end up with more debt and a weaker economy. the road map is greece, italy, spain, all over europe but the president thinks you can tax-and-spend your way to prosperity. >>neil: what the administration throws back on the issue is take a look at italy and greece, austerity has worked. you say what? >>guest: they have a strange definition. alwaysst either to them means higher taxes in europe and the united states austerity means less spending. i am in favor of the right definition of austerity. the balkan countries got out of the mess and now they are doing well economically because they cut, not just cut spending in the washington sense of increasing it at a slower rate they spent less one year after the other and now they are out of the trouble. if you understand the right definition of austerity is the way to go, the problem is in most of europe it means higher taxes, obama wants to give us the bad part of europe, without the good part. >>neil: thank you very much. they are not cutting anything. just slowing the growth. rebound and former president bill clinton hitting
. the big problem with us becoming greece is not revenue, it is not the tax code, it's entitlements. 10,000 baby boomers retire a day. social security and medicare are about $50 trillion under funded combined. we need to adjust the age for retirement, slowly but surely for people under 55 because we are living longer. you and i need to pay more because we can fore it. that's the entitlement reform we need to avoid becoming greece. >> there are two things you can do. you can do nothing. three things. you can do nothing. you can imagine it. or you can solve it. managing is limping along, lots of risks and recognizing that more baby boomers are coming along. management is going to get much more of a cataclysmic situation. >> that's a good point. the longer you wait to solve tthe harder it is. if we do nothing, social security runs out of money in 2033. medicare goes broke in 2024. and to fix tyou would have to increase taxes by one-third, for the entire population or cut benefits by 28%. if do you it now, you could save the benefit stream for those who need it the most, ask people likeny p
played out at the state level, greece, all over the world. there is no place they are working or have ever worked. but you can point to states where governor like scott walker or john kasich or rick scott are employing the conservative principles and they are attracting businesses and creating jobs. o'reilly did a great segment comparing texas and california. that is what i want to do with heritage, showcase successes we are having. to republicans concede we need more revenue in the context of not reforming entitlement or the tax code and the president wants a blank check to borrowone future, that is nuts. we should not negotiate with ourselves. stand our ground and we have a power majority in the house. the idea of the fiscal cliff -- >> bret: democrats say the argument was made in the election. won on their side. >> it didn't win in south carolina or the majority of the states. republicans elected won those elections running on the limited government and less taxes. they shouldn't give in to that. principle is wrong and the president doesn't have a serious plan. his idea of raising
. because if there is ever going to be a change, if michigan will be saved and not become worse than greece, it will be because of the governor snider and the republicans. >> and the president went there jed and a made his public comments. these are his supporters. >> oh, yes. >> he appeals to the union workers. >> well, beyond him not condemning it, why is he supporting a system that has led to no jobs in that state? the state is bankrupt. it is detroit. you don't -- >> next question. is michigan a preview of coming attractions for america because of democratic policies? because that is the outcrop of what happened in michigan. >> we have a series of greeces around the country. and one piece of good news is probably the first state to go bankrupt is california. california is so left wing, they could never elect a republican governor. neither republicans or democrats have an incentive to bail it out so i don't think we will see a federal bailout. fortunately california will go first and probably not michigan. >> ann coulter, great to he sue. >> last show of the year. see you next year, sean
thinks an electrical problem sparked it. greece, thousands of people turning out in athens to donate food, clothing and toys to families in need. and nations called, i care, i share, and local stations struggling to meet basic needs. the unemployment in greece right now. 26%. israel, christmas coming early to jerusalem. >> merry christmas and happiness and peace. happy holidays! >> santa claus walking through the old city, calling on commission residents to pick up free christmas trees. tens of thousands of pilgrims visit jerusalem every year and during the holiday season it's second in tourism to the west bank city of bethlehem where jesus was born. peru, dogs dressing up, putting on the dog. and posing for a picture with st. nick. and in lima, offering a new line of festive outfits for the four-legged friends and chihuahuas in custom gear all to make the holiday extra special and that's a wrap on this fox trip around the world in 80 seconds. >> well, i guess you could say it's christmas eve eve and thousands of shoppers are packing the stores in search of the last minute bargains or bet
greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in asp republicans. but hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: you don't think some of the more conservative colleagues will filibuster or set up a procedural road block? they will vote to avoid going over the cliff? >> no, but if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for this deal it will be hard for boehner to get it through the house. i will want to vote for it even though i won't like it because the country has a lot at stake here. >> chris: is senator graham right? will we get a deal? >> i think he is partially right. yesterday 2.1 million americans lost extended unemployment insurance and from this point on it is lose, lose. my big worry is a contraction of the economy, the loss of jobs which could be well over two million in addition to the people already on unemployment. i think contraction of the economy really would be just
to greece, the goal gets worse once we kick the can away. that will be the overriding probleming not the slowing economy not people spending money, but sure, that might not happen in the first two months, but it will eventually happen if we keep kicking down the can. we want to prove to the world that we have a solution and if it takes a few months to get there and higher taxes for a while, big deal, we will get there. that's got to be the plan not just the same nonsense. >> yeah, but larry, that's part of your point, but jonas says we're not in a bad recession, we're certainly not in a good recovery. and if we just keep falling little bit by little bit, maybe as much as jump off the cliff, but it's certainly a slippery slope. >> brenda, the damage is already being done. we saw it in november retail sales and companies delaying activity already and we know the ratings agencies are minutes away, we're right to fix the problem in the long run than making a bandaid short-term deal. it doesn't get recovery. >> we're going to get a bandaid deal and that's the only political way to do
accomplished little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president. he won. >> the time has come really to measure the absence of a deal plus against a deal and i think both of us come down that we have to solve this immediate situation. the danger to our people, to our military, to our nation's security, to our economic base is just too great not to have a solution. so you know, what makes this government work is compromise and it is when you don't compromise there is stasis. we had enough of that. >> joining us s chris wallace, anchor of "fox news sunday." good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> how could lindsey graham say it is a win for the president even though this does not deal with the out of control spending a $16 trillion plus budget deficit when the politicians in washington are taking little band aids when th
into a crisis like we have seen in greece and many other countries. it is dangerous when it gets too high, and we are moving close to that dangerous level every day. >> well now you have seen how much debt we have, how about where all of that money goes? the federal government spends more than $11 billion a day, $3 billion going to the department of health and human services. $2.5 billion go to social security. $1.8 billion to the defense department. but economists say most concerning of all is the $854 million a day hour country pays on our debt every single day. so we want to know what you think about the cost of spending. do you think your tax dollars should be spent better, in some other way? tweet your answers to us. i will read some of your responses. you can watch the entire cost of spending on our special report. and don't go away. we have some very special guests coming up in our studio. we will introduce you to a group in washington that is making sure some of our animal friends find a loving home this holiday. and some news you can use. what could going over the fiscal cliff me
this lawmakers do not reach a deal in time? are we on our way as some warn to becoming greece? doug mcelway is live ph washington. there are nice things about greece that you won't mind emulating, but your budget, their economy not one of them. >> the parthanon a nice thing to see when you go to athens. when ron paul was running he got huge applause when he said a government that continues to deval its currency destroys the middle class. >> they don't have the money, they run out of borrowing power, guess what they do. they start printing money. >> reporter: the federal reserve has printed more moon to deep interest rates low. most economists agree there is a big risk in there, the debt to gdp ratio is 102%. our debt is actually greater now than the amount of money the entire u.s. economy produces. even at historically low interest rates that interest on the debt will cost the u.s. $222 billion this year. 570billion by the year 20, 22 if the rates stay that low. if interest rates ricin slightly every sector of the economy will have a hard time paying its bills. >> servicing the debt is
to turn into greece first. depending on which of these scenarios we are talking about. it's all nothing. eventually they run out of money. the fed keeps print it. megyn: if we are going to be greece i would like a good euro. thank you. as the newtown shooting ignited a debate on gun control, some are talk about the assassination attempt of president reagan and his view on guns. michael reagan is here in a must-see interview. a michigan man is head to court after he decided to make a citizen's arrest of a police officer. here he is trying to pull the cop over. >> i said sir, you need to wear your seat belt. and it set me off. i was mad as hell. since i've lost weight i have so much more energy than i used to, when i'm out with my kids, my daughter'like, "mom, wait up!" and i'm thinking, "shouldn't you have more energy than me? you're, like, eight!" [ male announcer ] for every 2 pounds you lose through diet and exercise alli can help you lose one more by blocking some of the fat you eat. simple. effective. advantage: mom. let's fight fat with alli. have a healthier holiday at letsfightho
't become a country that looks like greece. [talking over each other] gregg: capitol hill and pennsylvania avenue, maybe they just think 16 trillion, 25 trillion, who cares. maybe they don't think it has a depressive effect on economic growth, and soaking up the credit markets, which women's businesses. >> that's exactly right. we don't have to wonder what this will go by. all we have to do is look over the pond and see what's happening in countries like greece and italy and spain and ireland have these massive debt. now we cannot repay them, massive interest-rate increases, you and i have talked about this before. but shame on us for not realizing that we stay on this path, we are in real financial trouble. gregg: stephen moore, economics writer for "the wall street journal." on her way to the fiscal cliff. thank you very much. heather: russian president vladimir putin accused of playing politics with the lives of orphans. signing a bill banning americans from adopting russian children. bad news has left dozens of american families heartbroken. amy kellogg is live in london with details.
the drain there is going to be physical, you think greece is bad wait until you see what happens here. that could very well happen in this country. am i wrong? >> not at all. it's not going to happen overnight. clearly at some point and we know when that point is 90%, 100% of ratio debt to g.d.p. we are already under obama divent to g.d.p. the ratio of debt to g.d.p. was 44%. it's now about 73%. that's in four years. that's astronomical. >> he sees the same stats that you see, that i see. he knows it. he knows what he is doing. yet, when you present this to the democratic party or even to the american people who by the way voted for this the american people voted for. this barack obama made no campaign promises that he would cut spending, none. he didn't say he would reign in government, none. yet the american people said you know what? that's okay with us. you keep spending, you keep getting it up there and we will take our chances. do you think most americans understand this? >> not at all. and i think it's pretty easy to win elections when you give away candy that you borrow from t
. >> republicans frequently argue it's critical to get a handle on the deficit before the u.s. becomes like greece. there is a terrible economy with 26% unemployment highest in europe, almost no job opportunities for young people frequentenly lead toro riots in the streets. here is leading democrat is suggesting cutting spending too quickly is a real problem. >> the european community now is concerned about all the austerity. there are many, many things you can do to reduce debt. but still have a stimulus aspect of the economy. >> experts though say europe's us aer the city a drag on the economic growth because it relies too much on taxation while failing to reign in the expansion of government. that would seem to back up a republican theme in the fiscal cliff argument. >> if we raise taxes on the top two rate, a million small businesses who employ 25% of the work force it will cost us over 700,000 jobs and reduce economic growth, lower take home pay and those things. that is a bad scenario. >> the league negotiator on the republican side of the table facing mr. obama says raiding taxes on upper -
your retirement, have brought us to the brink of becoming greece, the people that are stealing from their children and breaking open their piggy banks, how can they call people who pay half of the taxes greedy? they're the ones that are agreey, they're the ones that are selfish, and they're the ones that have spent beyond their means. you rarely hear that. why is that? the left controls most media outlets in the country and they define compassion and generosity by spending other people's money. this is a selfish, massive power grab and this is done by greedy politicians, you know, the ones that claim they care about you as they crat -- as they create d see, there are 18 mor million me americans on food stamps. 50 million americans in total on food stampletion. one in six americans live in poverty, millions more living paycheck to paycheck. i suspect with all the government compassion, i believe people would rather live debt-free. there's a lot of good time spending their money and then blaming the people who are giving them the money. if we're going to save america, we've got to rec
to think that but now i think we are. people want something for nothing. greece where they are rioting because they can no longer retire at age 40 or whatever it is. once people get free something, they feel entitled. and they want free everything. >>neil: john stossel, great show, and he has a studio and student audience and they will wait outside here for hours. hours. we tried to get some people coming to a book signing -- nothing. in the meantime, it is not quite time for my annual holiday shopping tips for men or for women but it is time for my single most important thing you can do if life to assure a great life tip for everyone. after this. she keeps you guessing. it's part of what you love about her. but your erectile dysfunction - you know, that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. . to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart i
such as greece and portugals of the world, and you get 65 percent or 70 percent debt to g.d.p., it is a red flag and 95 95 percent, that is a problem but our number will be so gigantic it is hard to understand how question have a vibrant economy when we pay $1 trillion a year in interest. >>neil: the markets seem to fall the lack thereof of the talks. is that a sign they are worried? >>guest: the market is worried the market wants closure of the debt ceiling. they do nut want this part of negotiations. we saw what happened last year, disaster. whatever deal is cut, the most important thing for wall street is the debt ceiling debate goes away for a year or month. >>neil: i think speaker boehner speaking to reporters today on what his plans were, i want you to react. >> tomorrow the house will pass legislation to make permanent tax relief for nearly every american and the president will have a decision to make. he can call on senate democrats to pass that bill. or he can be responding for the largest tax increase in american history. >>neil: is this his way of saying, it is in your cart. >>guest:
, including the tax rate hike though i don't like them to get, to save the country from becoming greece. i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> if the president does return to washington this week, unclear whether he will come back here to hawaii for new year's with his family. joe lieberman says he expects the senate to be in session on new year's eve, working on a deal down to the wire. >> thank you, ed. markets dropped on shortened day of trading. dow fell 52. s&p 500 lost 3.5. nasdaq down 8.5. might be a blue christmas for retailers. shoppers came out in droves but spent less this holiday season. however, sales are way up for those selling american made goods. correspondent william la jeunesse has the latest on the push for red, white, blue products. >> i sign trade agreements that help the companies sell more goods to millions of new customers. goods stamped with three proud words. "made in america." >> while it's true abroad that the u.s. products have a reputation for quality, getting americans to believe is it a challenge for retailers. >> nation that doesn't make
an electrical problem sparked it. >>> greece, thousands of people turning out in athens to donate food, clothing and toys to families in need. the initiative called i care i share. it was organized by a local tv station to help those struggling wi to meet basic needs. the unemployment rate 26 percent. >>> israel, christmas coming early to jerusalem. >> merry christmas for all the world and happiness and health and safety and peace. happy holidays. >> santa was walking through the old city urging christian residents to pick up christmas trees. during the holiday season it's still second in tourism to the west bank city of bethlehem where jesus was born. >> peru. dogs dressing up putting on the dogs and posing for a picture with saint nick. a new line of festive outfits for these four-legged friends. chihuahua's in custom gear all to make the holidays extra special. that's the trip around the world in 80 seconds. >> i guess you could say it's christmas oeve eve and thousand packing the stores to get the gift they need. lingering worries of a weak economy many consumers are left saying bah hum bug.
heading toward greece not thinking about spending. almost on class warfare disability. taken him kind of out of the argument and now he is coming back don't you think that is the problem. he is like ahab and the well and the well is the -- whale is the wealthy? >> raising taxes in punitive way on affluent people. having said that again, the people who are -- who would be hit with these tax increases are the people who create the jobs. and that impacts a lot of middle class americans. have you got a middle class americans employed by small businesses that would see their tax bills go up. that's going to be bad for the economy and bad for jobs. but, again, i think that the philosophically the president a lot of his allies up here in the congress have a very different view of the world and one which believes that the way that you improve our country and improve our society is to redescribility wealth. but the way that you improve this country and standard of living is is to grow the economy. that makes it better for everybody. that also solves a lot of these fiscal problems that the coun
leader. i would vote for revenues including tax hikes to keep the country from becoming greece. i am not going to set aside the 1.2 trillion in cuts. >> the president spoke out about the dpfiscal cliff on friday focusing his goals on middle class tax cuts not some kind of bargains. his supporters should find it no surprise to any one he wants people above tacks. >> he won 60 percent of the voters stharp for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> the focus shift to go the u.s. senate where few republicans are backing democratic plan to take some kind of actions before the deadline. >> they continue to give opinions rick warren had an opinion. >> he said it is time to stop placing blame and start fixing things. listen to this. >> i think there's plenty of blame to go around. i would say this we need to stop blaming. you can't mix the problem while you were fixing the blame. i have trained leaders all over the world. one of the things i teach leadership is leaders accept the blame and give away the credit. >> every time you are blaming you are being blamed. i wish they woul
anymore, obama's health care tax. the only thing you left out of that wrap is just like greece. >> the first time an attorney general to be held in contempt. >> and the vote that the house republicans want is a political vote. >> they played a bad hand, right now it's going to be a witch hunt. if you get more then it becomes intervention. >> the water has just now breached over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy a superstorm meteorologists are calling a once in a lifetime occurrence. the whole coast is devastated. >> the number of ambulances to move these children is remarkable. >> and lost homes in many forms-- ♪ ♪ >> andrew breitbart died this morning, he was 43. he was a publisher, an activist and a commentator, but that says almost nothing about this force of nature. he was a big kid who treated his opponents like humans. it was never about people, it was always, always about principles. . >> the u.s. has just evacuated all personnel from benghazi to tripoli. >> this was something that was a concerted effort, well organizationed, heavily armed. >> you have the america
become a greece. thank you both. >> happy new year's, guy. >> good to see you both. coming up, what exactly is going to happen if we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. what happens to your wallet. we will detail the five ways this is going to impact your family, your wallet and your finances. and also new york governor an drew cuomo is ready for a fight over gun control. he's even talking about confiscating weapons. how far is he going to go? all of that and more later. and sam donaldson tells tea party america this is not your country anymore. [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that? that's the sound of car insurance compani these days. here a cheap, there a cheap, everywhere a cheap... you get it. so, what if instead of just a cheap choice, you could make a smart choice? like, esurance for example. they were born online and built to save people money from the beginning. it's what they've always done. not just something they cheap about. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. >> as the likelihood of going over the fiscal cliff
in. and that that is unsustainable. the question is does that all lead to greece? part four of our series "the cost of spending" looks at dangerous consequences. interest rates and the role of the federal reserve. >> if a government destroys the value of currency, it will destroy the middle class. >> ron paul railed against the federal reserve and got applaud from growing clouds. >> we don't have the money, run out of borrowing power and guess what they do? they start printing money. >> despite paul and others' criticism the fed acted more aggressively. doubling down on printing more money each month to keep interest rates low for the future. >> it's likely warranted through 2015. >> why are they doing it? go back to the national debt clock. remember, we were staring at it it early in series. the debt to gdp or gross domestic product ratio is at 102%. the highest since just after world war ii. that is with extremely and historically low interest rates. even at these rates, that interest will cost the u.s. more and more every year. $222 billion in interest payments on the debt this
of federal power. >> you left out of that rant "just like greece." >> the first time for attorney general to be held in contempt. >> this is issa with a political move. >> this will be a witch hunt. if you get more it's an intervention. >> the water just now breaching over the sand dunes. >> hurricane sandy, superstorm that meteorologists call a once in a lifetime occurrence. >> the whole coast has been devastated. >> the number of ambulances for people who showed up to move the children is remarkable. >> the loss is emotional and memories. loss comes in many forms. ♪ ♪ notice ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: andrew breitbart died this morning at 43. publisher, activist and commentator. but that says nothing about this force of nature. he was a big kid who treated his opponents like humans. never about people. it was always about principles. >> the u.s. has just evacuated all personnel from benghazi to tripoli. >> this was a concerted effort, well organized. heavily armed. >> the american president and secretary of state and everybody else in the administration saying louddy it was because of
and greece. it is not a pretty scenario. >> tell me this what happens when we judge up against it? >> everybody starts wondering when we are going to raise the debt ceiling. there's a debate because they don't like to. then you have all of wall street looking at this wondering if we will be able to pay our bills. you remember what happened last time around the market sold off 2,000 points over the 2 month period. it was dramatic and hurt people's 401 k's. if you can't pay your bills you get a downgrade. >> again. >> it's not going to be good news. you know what happens you can't borrow as much money. >> that's what happens to me. >> it costs you more to borrow. all of us coming together it will be -- it could be we would be watching none of this would come to a surprise fell off the market every single day. they know what's happening. they know what's going on. it's not a surprise but nobody likes to see it. >> when they raise the debt ceiling is that to pay off debt already accrued. >> the money is already out the door. that has been spent. that is money we spend on other things.
treated in local hospitals. as you mentioned a police officer from nearby greece, new york was apparently driving by. he was injured when his vehicle or the area near him was hit by shrapnel. now, as for the crime scene itself, the authorities say that they believe that the shooter is dead. no word as to his identity. also not clear, kelly, is what type of weapon he had with him. the authorities said that it was not clear if it was an assault rifle, the type of weapon we have heard so much about during the past few days. we expect that there will be more information later today. they say there will be a news conference at 2:00 this afternoon. another thing to keep in mind is that because of the attack on the firemen, they were unable to put out the house fire, and what began as a house fire and vehicle fire then spread to at least three other buildings. we are toll that they were destroyed. others also damaged. and firefighters are on the scene trying to put out the flames. also, still yet to be known, kelly, and this is key, is might there be other victims here, because they are still tr
the country out of debt in a permanent way. the big problem with us becoming greece is not revenue, it's not the tax code. it's entitlements. 10,000 baby boomers retire a day. social security and medicare are about $50 trillion underfunded combined, and we need to adjust the age of retirement slowly but surely for people under 55 because we're all living longer. you and i need to pay a little more into the system because we can afford it. that's the kind of entitlement reform we need to avoid the coming grief. >> greta: there are two things to do. nothing. i guess there are three things. we can do nothing, manage it, or solve it. manage is sort of a limping along situation. recognizing that more baby boomers are coming along. management is actually getting more of a situation. >> the longer you wait to solve it, the harder it is. if we do nothing, social security runs out of money in 2033. medicare goes broke in 2024, and to fix it, you would have to increase taxes by one-third for the entire population or cut benefits by 28%. if you do it now, you could save the benefit string for tho
of greece. what is to blame there? too much austerity or too much taxation? we'll look at the problems inside his own party, for speaker boehner. it's friday. that means the lightning round with the panel. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> bob: kay. there is music for you. on december 3 last year, 16-year-old tyler alfred from oklahoma was driving under the influence and crashed his pickup truck killing his passenger and friend 16-year-old john luke. he pleaded guilty to first degree man slaughter in august. in the muskogee county -- it's oklahoma, district judge mike norman he sided not to give him -- decided not to give him jail time. but order to attend church regularly for ten years. i have several thoughts but let you start. eric, what do you think? >> eric: this is tough. blood alcohol is .6 or .7. double the legal limit. there are other issues. not just attend church. he has to graduate high school and graduate welding school and testing going forward. on the other hand he is 17-year-old? yeah. 17 years old.
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